2012-13 Detroit Red Wings Pro/No: Brad Stuart

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For the second off-season in a row, we — as well as our good friends at Winging it in Motown — are taking a look at the Red Wings’ upcoming free agents and asking the community for their input. Read all of the important information and then place your vote — should the Wings try to get Brad Stuart under contract for 2012-13, or has that ship sailed?

THE VITALS
Brad Stuart, Defenseman #23
32 Years Old (November 6, 1979)
6’2″, 215 lbs
12 Full NHL Seasons (876 career regular season games played) – the last four seasons and change with Detroit
Born in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta; drafted 3rd overall in 1998.

STATISTICS
Regular Season – 81 games played, 6 goals, 15 assists, 29 PIM, +16, 21:03 TOI per game
Playoffs – 5 games played, 0 goals, 1 assist, 0 PIM, -5, 19:22 TOI per game

CONTRACT SITUATION
In the three seasons following the lockout, Brad Stuart played on six different teams. The Sharks traded him to Boston as part of the deal that sent Joe Thornton to San Jose. The next season, the Bruins flipped him to Calgary because Stuart was not interested in re-signing in Boston. At the end of that season, he signed in Los Angeles — we now know that he prefers to be on the Left Coast because of a situation involving his wife and daughters. In LA on a one-year deal, and the Kings finding themselves in last place in the league, Stuart was a deadline day trade to the President’s Trophy winning Detroit Red Wings, where he promptly helped to win a Stanley Cup.

Instead of heading back West, he signed a four-year deal worth $15M (the annual cap hit was $3.75M). Now, those four years are up and he’s in need of a new deal for 2012-13.

DEPTH SITUATION
Stuart was an everyday player for the Red Wings, and will be an everyday player no matter where he ends up. Most of his time was spent paired with Niklas Kronwall on the second pairing. He’s a legit top-four defenseman in the NHL, and may very well be a top-two defenseman for any number of teams that could benefit from having him patrol the blueline. Brendan Smith is ready to make the jump to the NHL full-time, but Brad Stuart’s job would not be in danger — no matter what happens with Nicklas Lidstrom. His contract situation will be a personal decision — whether he wants to endure more time away from his family, or if he’s ready to take his ring and move back West.

CASE FOR STUART
1) For the bulk of the four-plus seasons he spent in red and white, Brad Stuart has been an extremely reliable defenseman. He was a healthy scratch a grand total of zero times — and only missed one game this past season (illness). In 2010-11, he missed 15 games after having his jaw broken by Tom Kostopoulus. In 2008-09, he missed 13 games with torn rib cartilage. In 2009-10, he suited up for all 82 games. Steady on the blueline, and brutally strong with the physical play, he was good for twenty-ish points each season, which is tough to find on this year’s open market.
2) With captain Nicklas Lidstrom’s future uncertain, potentially losing half of the top four blueliners would be a really tough hit to take. This year’s crop of free agents isn’t particularly impressive (two of the six “biggest name” defensemen are current Red Wings), so the back end may take a step backwards losing Stuart.
3) Building on that, there’s not really anyone out there that’s capable of replacing Stuart right now. A lot of Wings fans are hoping that Ryan Suter finds his way to Motown, but if he re-signs with Nashville (or somewhere else for that matter), the best player available for the Wings’ needs is, in fact, Brad Stuart. Uh oh.

CASE AGAINST STUART
1) As the season wore on, it became more and more apparent that Brad Stuart had checked out. It’s no secret he’d prefer to be playing hockey nearer to his family (more on that in a second), and his play dropped off significantly after the Wings’ mid-March trip to the West Coast, almost like he’s given up and just wanted to stay behind.
2) Continuing that string of mental unpreparedness was his playoff performance. He was a team-worst -5 in the five game series against Nashville (tied with… WAIT FOR IT… Todd Bertuzzi). I wrote following the playoffs that his bags were probably already packed and he cracked open a brew to watch the second round from his living room in California. I’d like to make it clear that I don’t blame him for wanting to play closer to home, and I don’t think he owes the Red Wings anything: he was a good soldier for four years and it’s no secret that being that far away from what makes you happy chips away at your conscious and soon enough you find yourself yearning to make a change. That’s where Brad Stuart is in his life at the moment.
3) While they may not be immediate replacements for Brad Stuart, there are a handful of young defensemen within the organization that would benefit from having a great chance to prove their worth on the big club. Brendan Smith, who’s very likely going to start the season on the NHL roster, may have been in Grand Rapids a little longer than he needed. Jakub Kindl, who’s been shuttled back and forth from the press box, would benefit from having a constant place in the active lineup. The Wings are in decent shape to replace some players who may be departing.

WHAT HE’S SAYING
For his part, Brad Stuart has been surprisingly forthcoming regarding his thoughts about the future. Via Brendan Savage of MLive, as well as Helene St. James of the Fress Press, Stuart had the following to say immediately following the Wings’ loss to the Predators:

I love it here. If it was a purely hockey decision, I would stay. But I’ve got other things to consider and factors other than just hockey. Those are things I guess I’ll have to figure out in the next month and a half.

It’s a great organization from the top to the bottom and everybody enjoys playing here and they’ve got a great core of players and some of the best players I’ve ever played with. It’s pretty easy to figure out why it’s such a good team.

I’ve been living here while my family has spent a lot of time in California,” Stuart said. “I’ve got a step-daughter that needs to finish high school. That’s how it is. There’s really no way to get around that. I guess it will be up to me to decide what needs to be done, because it’s been a tough couple of years. As much fun and as great as it’s been to play here, it’s been equally as tough on the family side of it.

SALARY RANGE
Stuart earned a moderate raise after his audition with the Red Wings in ’08. He’s likely to get another one of those if he hits the open market. Players of his caliber — and defensemen in particular — are commanding five, six, seven million a season for their services. However, if he’s desperate to return to Los Angeles, or San Jose, or Anaheim, that may work against him — forcing him to take a little bit of a haircut (compared to what he could make), although I’d be shocked if he makes less than $4.5M next season regardless of where he plays.

POTENTIAL REPLACEMENTS

Internal :: Kyle Quincey was likely brought in as a contingency plan for Stuart’s departure. He’s a restricted free agent but will very likely be re-signed and inserted in Stuart’s position on the top four. Brendan Smith, who will play his rookie season next year, as well as Jakub Kindl are both ready for more minutes.
External :: Ryan Suter is an obviously desirable replacement, but he’ll be highly sought after if he reaches July 1st. Other potentials hitting the market are Dennis Wideman, Pavel Kubina, Filip Kuba, Bryan Allen, and Greg Zanon.

WHAT DO YOU THINK
Use the form below to give us your take on whether the Wings should try to get Brad Stuart back at a reasonable rate. Then, sound off in the comments with your thoughts. Has he been a good soldier who has earned the right to play on the West Coast and be closer with his family — or does he owe the Wings for helping him find his game? Graham asked if I was going to post some free agent loss candy with this one — since it’s basically a foregone conclusion that he’ll be departing — but we’re still interested in seeing if the fanbase is holding out hope that he’ll be retained.

20 thoughts on “2012-13 Detroit Red Wings Pro/No: Brad Stuart”

  1. If he wants to be back it would certainly be good to sign him, but if he doesn’t, which is more probable I wonder if he could be traded on the draft day, or before free agency opens, to get at least a draft pick or something for him.

    1. I just don’t think he has much value if teams know he’s only going to sign in california. How much would you give up to get a CHANCE to sign Stuart before the other california team if you’re the ducks or the kings?

  2. If he wants to be back it would certainly be good to sign him, but if he doesn’t, which is more probable I wonder if he could be traded on the draft day, or before free agency opens, to get at least a draft pick or something for him.

  3. I voted Yes.

    If Brad Stuart is willing to re-sign with the Wings, I’m happy to accept that he can focus properly on playing as well as he did for the Wings as he did before the end of this season/

    1.  This is my logic as well. Once the decision’s made, I’m confident he’ll be committed and focused. I also think many people underestimate how big a void he would leave, and I’m hoping they don’t have to see the error of they ways just yet.

  4. I wanted to say yes, but instead said unsure. I think he is a very solid Dman and would like him on the Wings, but only if it didn’t affect the development of Brendan Smith. I don’t think it would, but I can’t be sure.

  5. I’m really trying not to hold out much hope for Stuart staying, because
    the risk of disappointment is so great. BUT there were a couple comments
    he made after the end of the season that gave me teeny tiny slivers of
    hope. I’m just
    so afraid of getting my hopes up about him staying, but I would be
    ecstatic if he did. Here’s my response to those who say “no” because they don’t think he wants to stay, or that he would play like he did the last couple months. IF (and that’s a HUGE IF) he decided to sign for another year, I think he’d have his head in the game. I
    think much of the issue at the end of this season was the uncertainty.
    If he (along with is family) made the decision for him to remain a Wing, I’d fully expect him to
    commit and be the Stuart we know and love. IF that were the case would more people welcome him back?

  6. Family and kids factor in way too much for some people’s decisions. Come on man, Parzival left that baggage behind when he went on his quest for the Holy Grail in Wolfram von Eschenbach’s Parzival, one of the greatest German epics in Medieval history.

    So I say sign him. He knows he’s a hockey player and his obligations are to HOCKEY. Family can always come second. So obviously, I voted YES. Bring Stuie back!

  7. If he’s willing to come back, then you absolutely want him back. All of the negatives are related to his desire to be in Detroit.  He’s not coming back against his will, so those won’t be an issue.

  8. I’m actually fairly comfortable with Quincy stepping into his shoes. He was a bit inconsistent at times, but certainly not more than Stuart when it counted, and he’s shown flashes of brilliance with a couple of good defensive sticks.

    1. I don’t see any way Quincey comes close to filling Stuart’s shoes. That’s not so much a knock on Quincey (I expect him to be much better next season) but rather that I think many people are underestimating how valuable Stuart is. He’s a dependable, reliable, physical, goal saving penalty killing, D-man. He does his job in a quietly and humbly; and other than Suter, I don’t see anyone I think could truly fill Stuart’s shoes. I definitely think Quincey has potential, but in my opinion, he’s not even close to Stuart-esque. Do you mean you think he’s ready now, or that Quincey might grow into them?

      1. I wouldn’t be surprised if Quincey was in full form after a good full training camp with the team this fall. I don’t think he was a full replacement last year, but I also don’t see him as the kind of long-term investment that Ericsson and Smith have been.

  9. I’ll never forget him getting beat game seven, AT HOME vs Pitt to lose the Cup. Time to move on after what I’ve seen and heard from him this year. Thanks Brad for the good times.

    1. All the reasons Detroit lost that series and people want to drag this out. I guess we should cancel any plans of eventually retiring Lidstrom’s number because he missed an open net to end that game.

      1.  I agree, in fact.. We should probably get rid of that Lidstrom guy before he costs us another cup. Send him to California too!

  10. none of the potential external replacements outside of Suter look that attractive to me, except for maybe Bryan Allen, but that’s definitely a downgrade. the ball is in Stuart’s court: if he’s willing to stay in Detroit, then by all means, sign him. 

  11. No one who saw the video a few months ago of Stuart skating at the Joe with his two young sons can fault him for moving back to California. He’s going to leave a large hole in the defense, but he’s going to be much happier. And his kids will have their dad back.

  12. Tired of the Stuart haters over at WIIM, at least in the comments…but this was an nice balanced review of the situation. I think Stuart will be missed hugely if he leaves for San Jose or whomever. He has been our most reliable and possibly, nearly our most valuable defenseman since his arrival in ’08.

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